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قديم 09-09-11, 11:15 PM   رقم المشاركة : 1
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صوديوم

عضو نشيط

الصورة الرمزية صوديوم

صوديوم غير متواجد حالياً


الملف الشخصي








صوديوم غير متواجد حالياً

صوديوم will become famous soon enough


Tv نصراني يقول هناك خطاء في هذه الاية

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته

And behold! Allah will say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, 'Take me and my mother for two gods beside Allah'?" He will say: "Glory to Thee! Never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, though I know not what in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden. [Qur'an 5:116]

Yes that is it, if allah is God than He should have known that Christians never believed that Mary was part of the triunity of God! If Christians believed that Mary was co equal with God than u'd be justified saying we ascribe a partner unto God. So even the Idea that we ascribe a partner unto god is a discrepancy in the Quran cuz we don't believe Jesus is God's partner. Muslims would be guilty of that before Christians cuz the have to confess a slave prophet of allah to be Muslim or obtain mercy from allahin the sahadah



I challenge u to show me where in the Bible Mary is called the mother of God or exalted as a god & I'll which to being a Muslim. I am a Christian. I don't believe that Mary was in any way shape or from a god or the mother of God. Mary was blessed among woman because she birth Jesus the greatest prophet in all history of what cprophets ame before Him or after. He is more than a messenger prophet He is the message.
That is where Islam goes wrong again! Find one discrepancy and you have found a thousand


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قديم 11-09-11, 09:43 AM   رقم المشاركة : 2
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بيان

المديـر العـــــام

الصورة الرمزية بيان

بيان غير متواجد حالياً


الملف الشخصي








بيان غير متواجد حالياً

بيان تم تعطيل التقييم


افتراضي


Wa alaikum assalam



Sorry for the delay



Roman Catholics who pray to Mary will deny that they are "worshipping" her. They instead call it "adoration", “veneration” or some other watered-down terms. However, from an Islamic point of view, WHAT IS WORSHIP IF NOT THIS?



By praying to her, they are indeed, associating partners with Almighty God, and thus become "polytheists" in a practical sense, regardless of their lip-service to "monotheism". This is true even if the person doesn't believe what they are doing is "worship".



Islam teaches that prayer and supplication are the marrow of worship, so if one directs their prayers to an intermediary (even if the pray is "ultimately" meant for God), then they are worshipping others besides God!



The belief that there is only one Lord for all the Universe and that He is the Creator, Organizer, Planner, Sustainer of the universe is not enough because, even those who worship idols, most of them believe that God is the Only Creator, Organizer, Sustainer of the Universe but this was not enough to make them monotheists.



The belief in the Oneness of God requires and includes the belief that NONE HAS THE RIGHT TO BE WORSHIPPED BUT GOD. All the acts of worship should be directed to God, such as Supplication or prayer, Sacrifice, Repentance, and all other acts of worship.



Those who worship the Prophets, saints, idols, angels or animals, believe that God is the Creator who has no equal. However, they associate others in worship with God as partners or intermediaries to bring them closer to God. This is the argument which the idol worshippers of all times, ancient and modern, used as evidence. However, the Prophets came to refute this argument and forbid this polytheism, and to call people to worship God alone with no partner or associate.


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قديم 11-09-11, 10:47 AM   رقم المشاركة : 3
الكاتب

صوديوم

عضو نشيط

الصورة الرمزية صوديوم

صوديوم غير متواجد حالياً


الملف الشخصي








صوديوم غير متواجد حالياً

صوديوم will become famous soon enough


افتراضي

many thanks brother


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قديم 12-09-11, 06:44 AM   رقم المشاركة : 4
الكاتب

صوديوم

عضو نشيط

الصورة الرمزية صوديوم

صوديوم غير متواجد حالياً


الملف الشخصي








صوديوم غير متواجد حالياً

صوديوم will become famous soon enough


افتراضي

:His response was

If people pray to Mary you have a point. Many Catholics do this; that is why I left the Catholic faith. Are Catholics really Christians is a better question to ask? No where in the Bible do we see justification for praying to saints, but we do see praying in Jesus' name acceptable to true Biblical Christianity. BTW I left the Catholic faith wih no intentions of jumping out of the frying pan into the fire of Islam


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قديم 12-09-11, 10:15 PM   رقم المشاركة : 5
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بيان

المديـر العـــــام

الصورة الرمزية بيان

بيان غير متواجد حالياً


الملف الشخصي








بيان غير متواجد حالياً

بيان تم تعطيل التقييم


افتراضي

الحمدلله ... إذن كانت الإجابة مفحمة له


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قديم 13-09-11, 02:59 AM   رقم المشاركة : 6
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مولیان

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الصورة الرمزية مولیان

مولیان غير متواجد حالياً


الملف الشخصي







مولیان غير متواجد حالياً

مولیان is on a distinguished road


افتراضي

حقا ردكم كان مقنع.

الاخ صوديوم ادع هذا النصراني ليأتي هنا، الاخ بيان سيكرمه بردوده


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قديم 25-09-11, 08:24 AM   رقم المشاركة : 7
الكاتب

صوديوم

عضو نشيط

الصورة الرمزية صوديوم

صوديوم غير متواجد حالياً


الملف الشخصي








صوديوم غير متواجد حالياً

صوديوم will become famous soon enough


1111

When I look at Islam, I don't get a clear picture of anything for my life. I just see a people bound by the laws in the OT such as don't eat this or that. Instead of walking with the Lord in a straight line going in a certain direction, I see people senselessly walking around a Kaaba stone in circles like a herd of cows getting nowhere to where people have even been trample by others. I don't even see the logic of it. The Bible states that the Kingdom of God is not meat or drink. We don't have to follow any number of pillars either or visit any locations. All we have to do to complete all the law & the prophets is love the Lord with all our heart, soul and mind, and love our neighbor as ourselves.


أخي بيان كيف نعطيه فكرة واضحة عن الاسلام والحكمة من الطواف


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قديم 25-09-11, 09:06 AM   رقم المشاركة : 8
الكاتب

صوديوم

عضو نشيط

الصورة الرمزية صوديوم

صوديوم غير متواجد حالياً


الملف الشخصي








صوديوم غير متواجد حالياً

صوديوم will become famous soon enough


افتراضي

هذة رسالته بالكامل


Ever since looking at all these videos I begin to question the Bible and those that are so adamant about the inerrancy of the Bible. And now my views have change to where I am not sure about it and I disagree with my pastor. I asked him is all Scripture in the Bible inspired by God that is good for correction and guidance or is it all Scriptures inspired by God are good? He said "ALL SCRIPTURE IN THE BIBLE." Well, I am not sure as agree with him now bcz of the debates I have heard & seen; however, it isn't enough to turn me Muslim bcz I still look at the Bible as maybe not prefect or inerrant because of the lack of original and many different version and translations, but I do trust it in the sense that I can see it gives a clear message of salvation and what direction God is pointing. I can truly see how the Bible points clearly to Jesus. Although I see through a glass darkly other things about the Bible, I still need to concern myself with what I do understand and see.

When I look at Islam, I don't get a clear picture of anything for my life. I just see a people bound by the laws in the OT such as don't eat this or that. Instead of walking with the Lord in a straight line going in a certain direction, I see people senselessly walking around a Kaaba stone in circles like a herd of cows getting nowhere to where people have even been trample by others. I don't even see the logic of it. The Bible states that the Kingdom of God is not meat or drink. We don't have to follow any number of pillars either or visit any locations. All we have to do to complete all the law & the prophets is love the Lord with all our heart, sould and mind and our neighbor as ourselves.

As far as logic, however, that is the glue that keeps you, but not me. I know that God ways can never be understood through human logic. His ways are past finding out. He wants us to trust and obey whether we understand or not. Love and obedience to God should not depend on logic and human reason. It takes faith. Without faith and God's grace it is impossible to please God. The road to HELL is paved with "Logic and reason" and human understanding my friend.


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قديم 25-09-11, 08:32 PM   رقم المشاركة : 9
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بيان

المديـر العـــــام

الصورة الرمزية بيان

بيان غير متواجد حالياً


الملف الشخصي








بيان غير متواجد حالياً

بيان تم تعطيل التقييم


افتراضي

Salam dear brother,

I think he rather needs this presentation as he ignorantly claims that there isn't any thing in Islam for his life



http://www.zshare.net/download/9459345154e21379/



.وهذه هي ترجمته إلى العربية:

http://www.shobohat.com/vb/showthread.php?t=3549


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