العودة   موقع شبهات و بيان > المنتدى العام > Misconceptions

Misconceptions خاص بنقاش الشبهات باللغة الإنجليزية

موضوع مغلق
 
أدوات الموضوع طرق مشاهدة الموضوع
قديم 08-07-10, 09:51 AM   رقم المشاركة : 11
الكاتب

بيان

المديـر العـــــام

الصورة الرمزية بيان

بيان غير متواجد حالياً


الملف الشخصي








بيان غير متواجد حالياً

بيان تم تعطيل التقييم


افتراضي

اقتباس:
المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة الذهب الأحمر مشاهدة المشاركة
thanks brother , Bayan

So, he replyed me this question


How can Allah be Loving and Good by allowing the existence of evil ?


Welcome back dear brother.

You may reply


Your denial of life after death is the reason for your questioning the Mercy of God and His justice.

Since you do not believe in punishment and reward after death, you imply God's injustice and lack of mercy.

In the Quran, God confirms that He created us for a purpose and that this life is a test and preparation for the eternal life after death.

On the Day of Judgment, God will fulfill His justice and bring all humans to account. He will punish the wicked people and will shower His mercy on the righteous peoplewho obeyed Him and did good deeds.

In this life many wicked people disobey God and commit sins and crimes against innocent people, yet they live a happy life. In contrast, many righteous people are persecuted and killed unjustly. Is God unaware of that? No, God only delays the punishment and reward until the Day of Judgment.

On the Day of Judgment, God will reward the righteous people who believed in Him, followed His commands and suffered for His sake. He will punish the evildoers who disobeyed Him, killed innocent people, spread corruption and led people astray. On that day, the people who were wronged will get revenge.


قديم 30-09-10, 02:57 PM   رقم المشاركة : 12
الكاتب

الذهب الأحمر

عضو نشيط

الصورة الرمزية الذهب الأحمر

الذهب الأحمر غير متواجد حالياً


الملف الشخصي







الذهب الأحمر غير متواجد حالياً

الذهب الأحمر is on a distinguished road


افتراضي

السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته .. أخي الفاضل بيـان زادك الله من علمه و فضله ..

سألني ملحد آخر هذا السؤال فما هو الرد الأنسب؟

you're saying Allah allowed the devil so that there could be sin and so that the ones who arnt faithful to him will be punished yet he's all knowing so he already knows who and who isnt going to follow him and who is right?


قديم 01-10-10, 03:54 PM   رقم المشاركة : 13
الكاتب

الذهب الأحمر

عضو نشيط

الصورة الرمزية الذهب الأحمر

الذهب الأحمر غير متواجد حالياً


الملف الشخصي







الذهب الأحمر غير متواجد حالياً

الذهب الأحمر is on a distinguished road


افتراضي

الله لا يهينك يا شيخنا .. وش الرد المناسب لهذه الشبه؟

And my guess is its men who get the virgins when they go to heaven because women dont have much freedom in islam. Justl ikw how the husband is allowed to beat the wife as long as she doesnt bleed, bruise and its not on the face. Also I read how Allah tells the muslims to go and conquer the non beleivers and either force them into Islam or make them pay a tax I csnt think of the name I think its jinx. But anyway he sounds greedy because he says that if they pay the jinx tax then they can continue to worship their religon but if they dont want to pay it they must join islam. That sounds like hes forcing them both ways by pushing a high tax no them and if they cant afford it then they have to join islam.


قديم 01-10-10, 06:40 PM   رقم المشاركة : 14
الكاتب

بيان

المديـر العـــــام

الصورة الرمزية بيان

بيان غير متواجد حالياً


الملف الشخصي








بيان غير متواجد حالياً

بيان تم تعطيل التقييم


افتراضي

اقتباس:
المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة الذهب الأحمر مشاهدة المشاركة
اللهAnd my guess is its men who get the virgins when they go to heaven because women dont have much freedom in islam. Justl .



The Islamic society upholds the highest standard of morality, chastity and modesty. There is not society in the world can match up to the Islamic community where modesty is concerned. And Since some of those who attack Islam, were no longer able to find anything to criticize in Islam in the life of this world, they tried to distort Islam by criticizing what Muslims will have when they go to Paradise !!


  • THE COMFORT & JOY OF PARADISE ARE FOR BOTH MEN & WOMEN

Some verses form the Quran confirm this:

If any do deeds of righteousness, be they MALE or FEMALE, and have faith, they will enter Paradise, and not the least injustice will be done to them. (Quran 4:124)

He that makes evil will not be requited but by the like thereof; and he that makes a righteous deed, whether MAN or WOMAN, and is a believer, such will enter Paradise, therein will they have abundance without measure. (Quran 40:40)

For Muslim men and women; for believing men and women; for devout men and women, for true men and women; for men and women who are patient and constant; for men and women who humble themselves; for men and women who give in charity; for men and women who fast; for men and women who guard their chastity; and for men and women who engage much in Allah’s remembrance FOR THEM HAS ALLAH PREPARED FORGIVENESS AND GREAT REWARD. ( Quran 33:35)

  • ALLAH MENTIONS BOTH HUSBANDS AND WIVES ENTERING INTO PARADISE TOGETHER:

"They and their wives, in pleasant shade, on thrones reclining" (Quran 36: 56).

"Enter Paradise, you and your wives, in happiness" (Quran 43: 70).

Allah also mentions that He will recreate the women of this life in Paradise:

And those on the right hand; what of those on the right hand? …
Among Talh trees with fruits piled one above another,
And spreading shade,
By water flowing constantly,
And fruit in abundance,
Whose season is not limited, nor supply forbidden,
And on Thrones of Dignity, raised high,
We have created their COMPANIONS A NEW CREATION,
And made them virgin pure and undefiled,
Beloved by nature, equal in age,
(Quran 56: 27-37).

About the above verses, Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said,

“God will recreate the elderly women of this life and make them young virgins in Paradise.”

It is also mentioned in the Hadith that the women of this worldly life have a superiority over the hoors due to the acts of worship and obedience that they performed (in this world).
  • One may say, “ It is true that the Quran does mention what believing women will have in Paradise like comfort, happiness, delicious food and drink and rapturous life with their husbands. However, there is no mention of more than one husband for a woman in Paradise, like men!

Answer:

In matters of sex, a woman prefers a single partner. She aspires to monogamous marriage as it is in her nature to love only one man faithfully. Men, on the other hand, are promiscuous by nature and their desires are stronger and more frequently recurring!

Therefore, the Quran promised believing women to live in happiness with their husbands!

"Enter Paradise, you and your wives, in happiness" (Quran 43: 70).

  • One may say, “ But there are promiscuous women”!!!

Answer:

Yes there are! And there are also lesbians and gays; and people who practice incest and even bestiality. Does the Quran mention anything for all these sexual perverts?

No! The Quran does not say that gays will have relations with men in Paradise, neither does it say that those who practice bestiality will have relations with animals or that those who practice incest will have relations with their daughters or sons!

All these perverted sexual acts are not natural. People are not born with these perverted desires. These are choices some people make for themselves; like those who choose to steal, choose to kill, etc.

If a woman finds a desire to have a relation with other than her husband then this is because either she does not love her husband or because her husband does not satisfy her. If she loves her husband and her husband fully satisfies her needs, then she will not aspire to more husbands!

Islam accommodate for the instinctive human requirements and not for unnatural desires! It appeals to the human nature and the tenets of Islam are in harmony with the naturally created inclinations.
  • One may say, “ Won’t women in Paradise feel jealous when their husbands have other wives”

Answer:

No! Because God the Almighty has promised women as well as men to live in happiness in Paradise: “It is a promise from God in truth ; and whose word can be truer than God's?(Quran 4:122):

"Enter Paradise, you and your wives, IN HAPPINESS" (Quran 43: 70).

There no sense of fatigue shall touch them. (Quran 15:48)

Therein are brought round for them trays of gold and goblets, and therein is all that souls desire and eyes find sweet. And you are immortal therein. (Quran 43: 71)

For theirs are Gardens underneath which rivers flow, wherein they are secure for ever, God well pleased with them, AND THEY WITH GOD. That is the great triumph. (5: 119)

We are your protectors in this life and in the Hereafter; therein shall you have all that your souls shall desire; therein shall you have all that you ask for! (41:31)

AND WE REMOVE WHATEVER RANCOR MAY BE IN THEIR HEARTS. Rivers flow beneath them. (Quran 7:43)

Gardens of Eternity will they enter; therein will they be adorned with bracelets of gold and pearls; and their garments there will be of silk. And they will say, PRAISE BE TO ALLAH WHO HAS PUT GRIEF AWAY FROM US. Lo! Our Lord is Forgiving, Bountiful. (Quran 35:33,34)


قديم 02-10-10, 05:23 PM   رقم المشاركة : 15
الكاتب

الذهب الأحمر

عضو نشيط

الصورة الرمزية الذهب الأحمر

الذهب الأحمر غير متواجد حالياً


الملف الشخصي







الذهب الأحمر غير متواجد حالياً

الذهب الأحمر is on a distinguished road


افتراضي

رد علي هذا الرد ..

Well friend their are contradictions in the Qua'ran and if brought up a few but like other muslims you deny its a contradiction but i hate to say it every religous book has a contradiction and they ahve been found you just deny that there are any because you need to beleive theirs a god so that you may feel that their is a purpose in life rather than beleive there isnt. Allah and god(s) in many other religons sounds greedy and the reason why I say that is he makes heaven his kingdom then decides hey you know what Im going to make some things called humans and Im going to make them worship me. That sounds greedy to me friend and also I think if he wouldnt have made evil then the world would be better off and would be great


قديم 02-10-10, 06:33 PM   رقم المشاركة : 16
الكاتب

بيان

المديـر العـــــام

الصورة الرمزية بيان

بيان غير متواجد حالياً


الملف الشخصي








بيان غير متواجد حالياً

بيان تم تعطيل التقييم


افتراضي

اقتباس:
المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة الذهب الأحمر مشاهدة المشاركة
رد علي هذا الرد ..

Well friend their are contradictions in the Qua'ran and if brought up a few but like other muslims you deny its a contradiction but i hate to say it every religous book has a contradiction and they ahve been found you just deny that there are any because you need to beleive theirs a god so that you may feel that their is a purpose in life rather than beleive there isnt. Allah and god(s) in many other religons sounds greedy and the reason why I say that is he makes heaven his kingdom then decides hey you know what Im going to make some things called humans and Im going to make them worship me. That sounds greedy to me friend and also I think if he wouldnt have made evil then the world would be better off and would be great


Unlike the Bible, there isn't any contradiction in the Quran and none can prove any.




I can show you in the Bible clear contradiction which no Christian can reconcile like:




Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign … (2 Kings 8:26) (KJV)



Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign … (2 Chronicles 22:2) (KJV)





However if you have difficulties in understanding the Quran, this does not mean that there are contradictions in it

I understand that you are not Christian, and I just wanted to show you some real contradictions


قديم 04-10-10, 08:08 PM   رقم المشاركة : 17
الكاتب

الذهب الأحمر

عضو نشيط

الصورة الرمزية الذهب الأحمر

الذهب الأحمر غير متواجد حالياً


الملف الشخصي







الذهب الأحمر غير متواجد حالياً

الذهب الأحمر is on a distinguished road


افتراضي

الله يعطيك العافية و يجعلك ذخرا للإسلام والمسلمين ..
ماهو الرد على هذه الجزئية؟

he makes heaven his kingdom then decides hey you know what Im going to make some things called humans and Im going to make them worship me. That sounds greedy to me friend and also I think if he wouldnt have made evil then the world would be better off and would be great


قديم 05-10-10, 10:13 PM   رقم المشاركة : 18
الكاتب

بيان

المديـر العـــــام

الصورة الرمزية بيان

بيان غير متواجد حالياً


الملف الشخصي








بيان غير متواجد حالياً

بيان تم تعطيل التقييم


افتراضي

اقتباس:
المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة الذهب الأحمر مشاهدة المشاركة
الله يعطيك العافية و يجعلك ذخرا للإسلام والمسلمين ..
ماهو الرد على هذه الجزئية؟

he makes heaven his kingdom then decides hey you know what Im going to make some things called humans and Im going to make them worship me. That sounds greedy to me friend and also I think if he wouldnt have made evil then the world would be better off and would be great


You may just quote the following verses from the Quran:.

I created the jinn and humankind only that they might worship Me. No Sustenance do I require of them, nor do I require that they should feed Me. Surely Allah is the Bestower of sustenance, the Lord of Power, the Strong. (Quran 51: 56- 58).


قديم 08-10-10, 09:59 AM   رقم المشاركة : 19
الكاتب

الذهب الأحمر

عضو نشيط

الصورة الرمزية الذهب الأحمر

الذهب الأحمر غير متواجد حالياً


الملف الشخصي







الذهب الأحمر غير متواجد حالياً

الذهب الأحمر is on a distinguished road


افتراضي

Thanks alot my brother.
here is another question I'd like you to give me the answer please.

Why Allah didnt send a prophet to the egyptians or Norse who beleived in many gods and same with the greeks who beleived in many gods.?


قديم 08-10-10, 11:47 PM   رقم المشاركة : 20
الكاتب

بيان

المديـر العـــــام

الصورة الرمزية بيان

بيان غير متواجد حالياً


الملف الشخصي








بيان غير متواجد حالياً

بيان تم تعطيل التقييم


افتراضي

اقتباس:
المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة الذهب الأحمر مشاهدة المشاركة
Thanks alot my brother.
here is another question I'd like you to give me the answer please.

Why Allah didnt send a prophet to the egyptians or Norse who beleived in many gods and same with the greeks who beleived in many gods.?

You are welcome, my dear brother

You may say to him



As confirmed in the Quran, Allah has sent a Messenger to every nation, however, people have either rejected their Messenger or deviated from the original teachings of their messenger as was the case with the Jews and Christians. Allah says in the Quran:





Surely We have sent you with the truth as a bearer of good news and a Warner; and there is not a people but a Warner has gone among them. And if they call you a liar, so did those before them indeed call (their messengers) liars; their messengers had come to them with clear signs, and with scriptures, and with the illuminating book. (Quran 35:24-25)


موضوع مغلق


الذين يشاهدون محتوى الموضوع الآن : 1 ( الأعضاء 0 والزوار 1)
 
أدوات الموضوع
طرق مشاهدة الموضوع

تعليمات المشاركة
لا تستطيع كتابة مواضيع
لا تستطيع كتابة ردود
لا تستطيع إرفاق ملفات
لا تستطيع تعديل مشاركاتك

كود [IMG] متاحة
كود HTML معطلة
الانتقال السريع إلى

 

الساعة الآن: 05:52 AM


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.0.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
جميع المواضيع والمشاركات تعبر عن وجهة نظر كاتبها فقط ,, ولاتعبر عن وجهة نظر الإدارة