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قديم 04-10-08, 04:40 AM   رقم المشاركة : 1
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بيان

المديـر العـــــام

الصورة الرمزية بيان

بيان غير متواجد حالياً


الملف الشخصي








بيان غير متواجد حالياً

بيان تم تعطيل التقييم


افتراضي Muslim ◄► Atheist Dialogue


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Muslim
?Do you believe in God


:Atheist
!No


:Muslim
?Who created you and the heavens and earth, then

:Atheist
! I do not know


:Muslim
But there must be a creator or a maker for everything. Things cannot create themselves

:Atheist
Well ! According to your logic, who created this Creator? You said that there must be a creator for everything, then who created this creator


:Muslim
!Mmm! I will answer your question tomorrow

:Atheist
!Ok! Until tomorrow then

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:Muslim
!While I was in the desert, I found a beautiful watch in the sand

:Atheist
?What make of watch is it



:Muslim
Oh! Nothing was written on it, so I think that no one made it. I think that the watch just emerged from the sand by itself


:Atheist
Ha Ha!



:Muslim
?Why are you surprised

:Atheist
The watch must have a maker. The watch can’t make itself! There must be a human who made it.


:Muslim
Well ! According to your logic, who made this human? You said that there must be a maker for the watch, so who made this maker?.

:Atheist

Why do you ask this stupid question? Why do you concern yourself with the creation of humans. Why do you compare Humans with watches; humans are not like watches! All we know is that watches must have a maker. While we cannot comprehend the creation of humans!

Our knowledge and minds are not able to discover the truth. Even in our life, we do not know many things like the causes of many diseases, the spirit etc. How could we, then know exactly the truth of the origin of humans?




:Muslim
That is exactly what I wanted! Your reply to me is exactly my reply to you, when you asked me yesterday, “ Who created the Creator?” .... So my reply to you is,

“Why do you ask this stupid question? Why do you concern yourself with the creation of your God? Why do you compare God with humans; God is not like us! There is none like unto Him. All we know is that God created us. If the Human mind could not comprehend the universe, how could it comprehend the Creator of the universe

Our knowledge and minds are not able to discover the truth. Even in our life, we do not know many things like the causes of many diseases, the spirit etc. How could we then discover the truth of the unseen?
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Were they created of nothing, or were they themselves the creators?
Or did they create the heavens and the earth? Nay, they have no firm belief …
Or that the Unseen is in their hands, and they write it down?
Or have they a god other than God? Exalted is God far above the things they associate with Him! …
So leave them alone till they meet their day, in which they will be thunder stricken (Quran 52 35-45)


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قديم 28-10-08, 12:36 AM   رقم المشاركة : 2
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مبدع

المدير الفني

الصورة الرمزية مبدع

مبدع غير متواجد حالياً


الملف الشخصي







مبدع غير متواجد حالياً

مبدع is on a distinguished road


افتراضي

A strong argument

I like your way when you answer on Misconceptions

Allah bless you

If you don't mind
I have a question for you

Is it important to wait a full day to apply this conversation؟
I'm just kidding

Thank you for the conversation and the perfect answer


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قديم 28-10-08, 05:41 AM   رقم المشاركة : 3
الكاتب

بيان

المديـر العـــــام

الصورة الرمزية بيان

بيان غير متواجد حالياً


الملف الشخصي








بيان غير متواجد حالياً

بيان تم تعطيل التقييم


افتراضي

اقتباس:
المشاركة الأصلية كتبت بواسطة مبدع مشاهدة المشاركة
A strong argument



I like your way when you clarify Misconceptions

May Allah bless you

If you don't mind
I have a question for you

Is it important to wait a full day to continue this conversation؟
I'm just kidding


Thank you for the conversation and the perfect responses

Ha ha


Hala brother Mubdae



Many thanks for your response. The Muslim delayed the response to the next day so that the stupid atheist forgets what he had said



I am looking forward to more participation from you



Salam


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قديم 21-01-09, 10:25 PM   رقم المشاركة : 4
الكاتب

عربي

عضو جديد

الصورة الرمزية عربي

عربي غير متواجد حالياً


الملف الشخصي







عربي غير متواجد حالياً

عربي is on a distinguished road


افتراضي

it does happen alot , i mean such quetions which the atheists keep asking to distract us on purpose or not !

it happend to me once and i replied with such answers alhamdulliah.

thanks for this intersting conversation brother.

expecting for more from you.


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قديم 28-02-09, 08:49 PM   رقم المشاركة : 5
الكاتب

بيان

المديـر العـــــام

الصورة الرمزية بيان

بيان غير متواجد حالياً


الملف الشخصي








بيان غير متواجد حالياً

بيان تم تعطيل التقييم


افتراضي

You are welcome brother Araby and thanks for your comments


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قديم 21-05-09, 08:19 AM   رقم المشاركة : 6
الكاتب

Ahzidan

عضو جديد

الصورة الرمزية Ahzidan

Ahzidan غير متواجد حالياً


الملف الشخصي







Ahzidan غير متواجد حالياً

Ahzidan is on a distinguished road


افتراضي

I think I have a good answer for the question of "if there is a creator for everything, Who did create God then?" I wish to listen to your opinions brothers.
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If we applied this principle in God we will go nowhere. for that if we proved God has a creator so we will ask ourselves " who did create this creator then?", and if we went like this we won't reach an end, and not reaching an end is a defect and impossible because everything has an END.
when we see things like watches, Cars, TVs, Planes, .... ETC we all believe that these things are manmade, and these things must have creators. and if we see the Human beings, Animals, Plants, and the whole Universe, we will believe that there is a creator for all of these things, but who is HE? this is what the prophets were sent for. but there is an Idea here, That The God who created these things also is the one who created this Principle that everything has a creator. when God created this Universe he Created its principles and conceptions. we cannot apply the principles God created on God Himself, because He is out of this.
let me give you an Example!
if you know FIFA and the Football association for example. they put the rules that if a player touches the ball with his hand on purpose the refree shall Punish him with a yellow or red Card.
can we apply these rules out of the field?
if Joseph Blatter " President of FIFA" touches the ball with his hand, will he get a yellow card? no of Course. because he is out of the Field, and he is not a player. he only Puts the Rules that will be applied in the game. but we can't apply these rules out of this Game.
so God puts the rules in our world. and he is Out of them. he is the creator, but not the creation. the Ruler, but not the player.


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